1. LIDERIC¹, (FORESTER) of Flanders, Belgium was born before 792, and died between 792 and 898. ^[57]
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ENGELRAM2, b. before 802.

2. ENGELRAM² (Lideric¹), son of (1) Lideric¹, (Forester), was born before 802, and died between 802 and 912. ^[57]
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ODOACER3, b. before 832, d. in 837.

3. ODOACER³ (Engelram², Lideric¹), son of (2) Engelram² _____, was born before 832, and died in 837. ^[57]
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COUNT BALDWIN I4 OF FLANDERS of Flanders, d. in 879; m. (JT-38) JUDITH OF FRANCE in 862.

4. COUNT BALDWIN I⁴ OF FLANDERS (Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, son of (3) Odoacer³ _____, was born between 795 and 838, and died in 879^[57]. He married in 862, (JT-38) JUDITH OF FRANCE^[59], daughter of (JT-31) Emperor Charles II the Bald and (ACR-2) Ermentrude (of ORLEANS), who was born circa 844^[58], and died after 870^[58]. ^{[6, 34, 52, 42, 57]}
Baldwin I "Bras de Fer"
Children:

+	5	i.	COUNT BALDWIN II THE BALD5 of Flanders, b. circa 865, d. on 2 Jan. 918; m. (ANY-19) ALFTHRYTH in 884.
+	6	ii.	COUNT RAOUL DE CAMBRAY.

5. COUNT BALDWIN II THE BALD⁵ OF FLANDERS (Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, son of (4) Count Baldwin I⁴ and (JT-38) Judith (of FRANCE) (WESSEX), was born circa 865, and died after 2 Jan. 918. He married in 884, (ANY-19) ALFTHRYTH of Dedham, Essex, England, United Kingdom, daughter of (ANY-16) King Alfred the Great and (PO-2) Ealhswith, who died on 7 June 929^[57]. ^{[7, 29, 52, 42, 34, 57]}
Count of Flanders and Artois
Children:

+	7	i.	COUNT ARNOLD I THE OLD6 of Flanders, b. circa 890, d. on 27 March 965/6; m. (JT-60) ALIX DE VERMANDOIS in 934.
	8	ii.	ADOLPHUS, (COUNT) of Boulogne, France, d. in 934.

6. COUNT RAOUL⁵ DE CAMBRAY (Baldwin I of FLANDERS⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), son of (4) Count Baldwin I⁴ and (JT-38) Judith (of FRANCE) (WESSEX), was born between 850 and 880, and died between 864 and 989. ^[35]
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COUNT ISAAC6.

7. COUNT ARNOLD I THE OLD⁶ OF FLANDERS (Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, son of (5) Count Baldwin II the Bald⁵ and (ANY-19) Alfthryth, was born circa 890, and died after 27 March 966. He married in 934, (JT-60) ALIX DE VERMANDOIS, daughter of (JT-50) Count Herbert II and (T-9) Liegarde (Liegaude), who died in 960 in Bruges, Belgium. ^{[8, 29, 52, 42, 57]}
Count of Flanders and Artois
Children:

+	10	i.	ELSTRUDE7 of Flanders; m. (O-17) COUNT SIGEFREDE THE DANE OF GUISNES.
+	11	ii.	COUNT BALDWIN III of Flanders, d. on 1 Jan. 961/2; m. (EJ-2) MATILDA BILLUNG.

9. COUNT ISAAC⁶ DE CAMBRAY (Raoul⁵, Baldwin I of FLANDERS⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), son of (6) Count Raoul⁵, was born between 850 and 916, and died between 909 and 1026. ^[35]
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JUDITH7, b. circa 920, d. in 983; m. (AMA-1) AMAURY I DE VALENCIENNES in 952.

10. ELSTRUDE⁷ OF FLANDERS (Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, daughter of (7) Count Arnold I the Old⁶ and (JT-60) Alix (de VERMANDOIS), was born between 894 and 960, and died between 908 and 1070. She married (O-17) COUNT SIGEFREDE THE DANE OF GUISNES of Guisnes, son of (O-16) son _____, who died in 965. ^[57]
Child: See (O-17) Count Sigefrede the Dane of GUISNES
11. COUNT BALDWIN III⁷ OF FLANDERS (Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, son of (7) Count Arnold I the Old⁶ and (JT-60) Alix (de VERMANDOIS), was born between 894 and 960, and died after 1 Jan. 962. He married (EJ-2) MATILDA BILLUNG, daughter of (EJ-1) Hermann, Duke of Saxony and Hildegarde (of WESTERBURG), who died on 25 May 1008. ^{[9, 29, 52, 41]}
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COUNT ARNOLD II THE YOUNG8 of Flanders, d. on 30 March 987; m. (UK-4) ROSELE (OR SUSANNA) OF ITALY in 968.

12. JUDITH⁷ DE CAMBRAY (Isaac⁶, Raoul⁵, Baldwin I of FLANDERS⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), daughter of (9) Count Isaac⁶, was born circa 920^[1], and died in 983^[1]. She married in 952, (AMA-1) AMAURY I DE VALENCIENNES^[35], who was born circa 920^[1], and died in 973^[1]. ^{[1, 35]}
Child: See (AMA-1) Amaury I de VALENCIENNES

13. COUNT ARNOLD II THE YOUNG⁸ OF FLANDERS (Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, son of (11) Count Baldwin III⁷ and (EJ-2) Matilda (BILLUNG), was born between 920 and 954, and died after 30 March 987. He married in 968, (UK-4) ROSELE (OR SUSANNA) OF ITALY, daughter of (UK-3) King Berengarius II and (BN-3) Willa (of ARLES), who died on 26 Jan. 1003. ^{[10, 29, 46, 41]}
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COUNT BALDWIN IV THE BEARDED9 OF VALENCIENNES of Valenciennes, France, b. in 980, d. on 30 May 1036; m. (1) (AMQ-5) OGIVE OF LUXEMBOURG in 1012; m. (2) (P-20) JUDITH OF NORMANDY.

14. COUNT BALDWIN IV THE BEARDED⁹ OF VALENCIENNES (Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Valenciennes, son of (13) Count Arnold II the Young⁸ and (UK-4) Rosele (or Susanna) (of ITALY), was born in 980, and died after 30 May 1036. He married (1st) in 1012, (AMQ-5) OGIVE OF LUXEMBOURG of Luxembourg, daughter of (AMQ-3) Count Frederick I and (AOD-3) Ermentrude (of GLEIBERG), who was born circa 995^[4], and died on 21 Feb. 1030^[4]. He married (2nd) (P-20) JUDITH OF NORMANDY, daughter of (P-11) Richard II the Good, 5th Duke of Normandy and (AFG-8) Judith (of BRITTANY). ^{[11, 27, 48, 45]}
Count of Valenciennes, 1007, and Count of Flanders.
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BALDWIN V10 DE LILLE, COUNT OF FLANDERS of Flanders, b. in 1012, d. on 1 Sept. 1067 in Lille, France; m. (T-18) AELIS OF FRANCE, COUNTESS OF CONTENANCE in 1028.

Child of: Count Baldwin IV the Bearded⁹ of VALENCIENNES and Judith of NORMANDY:

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JUDITH10 OF FLANDERS of Flanders, d. on 4 March 1094; m. (NU-2) DUKE WELF IV OF BAVARIA.

15. BALDWIN V¹⁰ DE LILLE, COUNT OF FLANDERS (Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, son of (14) Count Baldwin IV the Bearded⁹ and (AMQ-5) Ogive (of LUXEMBOURG), was born in 1012, and died after 1 Sept. 1067 in Lille. He married in 1028, (T-18) AELIS OF FRANCE, COUNTESS OF CONTENANCE, daughter of (T-12) King Robert II "the Pious" and (AH-6) Constance (of PROVENCE), who died on 8 Jan. 1079^[4]. ^{[12, 56, 26, 51, 43, 40]}
Children:

+	17	i.	MATILDA (MAUD)11 OF FLANDERS, QUEEN OF ENGLAND of Flanders, Flanders, France, b. in 1032, d. on 2 Nov. 1083 in Caen, Calvados, France; m. (P-25) KING WILLIAM I THE CONQUEROR OF ENGLAND in 1053 in Castle Of, Angi, Normandy, France.
+	18	ii.	COUNT BALDWIN VI DE MONS of Flanders, Belgium, d. on 17 July 1070; m. RICHILDE OF HAINAUT.
+	19	iii.	ROBERT LE FRISON, COUNT OF FLANDERS of Flanders, Belgium, b. circa 1035, d. on 3 Oct. 1093; m. (EJ-7) GERTRUDE OF SAXONY.

16. JUDITH¹⁰ OF FLANDERS (Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, Belgium, daughter of (14) Count Baldwin IV the Bearded⁹ and (P-20) Judith (of NORMANDY), was born between 1019 and 1037, and died after 4 March 1094^[4]. She married (NU-2) DUKE WELF IV OF BAVARIA, son of (NU-1) Azo II and (DN-4) Cunigunde (of BAVARIA) ESTE, who died on 6 Nov. 1101^[23]. ^{[22, 30, 36]}
Not dau. of Baldwin V. ^[22]
Child: See (NU-2) Duke Welf IV of BAVARIA

17. MATILDA (MAUD)¹¹ OF FLANDERS, QUEEN OF ENGLAND (Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, Flanders, France, daughter of (15) Baldwin V¹⁰, Count of Flanders and (T-18) Aelis (of FRANCE), Countess of Contenance (NORMANDY), was born in 1032, died after 2 Nov. 1083 in Caen and was buried in Chrchholytrinity, Caen. She married in Castle Of, in 1053, (P-25) KING WILLIAM I THE CONQUEROR OF ENGLAND, son of (P-18) Duke Robert I and (NW-2) Herleve (de FALAISE), who was born on 14 Oct. 1024 in Falaise, Calvados, was christened in 1066 in Norman Conquest, England, died on 9 Sept. 1087 in Normandy^[3], and was buried in Abbey of St Step, Caen. ^{[5, 55, 28, 53, 44, 39, 2]}
Children: See (P-25) King William I the Conqueror of ENGLAND
18. COUNT BALDWIN VI¹¹ DE MONS (Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, Belgium, son of (15) Baldwin V¹⁰, Count of Flanders and (T-18) Aelis (of FRANCE), Countess of Contenance (NORMANDY), was born between 1026 and 1068, and died after 17 July 1070. He married RICHILDE OF HAINAUT, who died on 15 March 1088^[4]. ^{[13, 47, 56]}
von Redlich lists as daughter of Count Regnier V of Hainault,
but "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists" says "of uncertain parentage".
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COUNT BALDWIN II12 OF HAINAUT, d. in 1099; m. (AHG-19) IDA OF LOUVAIN.

19. ROBERT¹¹ LE FRISON, COUNT OF FLANDERS (Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flanders, Belgium, son of (15) Baldwin V¹⁰, Count of Flanders and (T-18) Aelis (of FRANCE), Countess of Contenance (NORMANDY), was born circa 1035^[4], and died after 3 Oct. 1093^[4]. He married (EJ-7) GERTRUDE OF SAXONY, daughter of (EJ-4) Duke Bernard II and (AGZ-2) Elica (von SCHWEINFURT), who died in 1113^[4]. ^[20]
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GERTRUDE12 DE FLANDERS, b. circa 1070, d. in 1117; m. (BD-23) DUKE THIERRY II OF LORRAINE in 1095.

20. COUNT BALDWIN II¹² OF HAINAUT (Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), son of (18) Count Baldwin VI¹¹ and Richilde (of HAINAUT), was born between 1028 and 1071, and died in 1099^[4]. He married (AHG-19) IDA OF LOUVAIN of Louvain, Brabant, Belgium, daughter of (AHG-17) Count Henry II and (G-2) Adelaide (of ORLAMUNDA), who died in 1139. ^{[14, 56, 31, 49]}
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COUNT BALDWIN III13, b. in 1087/8, d. in 1120; m. (ANU-2) YOLANDE OF GUELDERS in 1107.

21. GERTRUDE¹² DE FLANDERS (Robert le FRISON¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), daughter of (19) Robert¹¹, Count of Flanders and (EJ-7) Gertrude (of SAXONY), was born circa 1070^[4], and died in 1117^[4]. She married in 1095, (BD-23) DUKE THIERRY II OF LORRAINE of Alsace, France, son of (BD-22) Count Gerard IV and (ABM-5) Hadwide (of NAMUR), who was born circa 1044, and died on 23 Jan. 1115^[4]. ^[21]
Child: See (BD-23) Duke Thierry II of LORRAINE

22. COUNT BALDWIN III¹³ OF HAINAUT (Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), son of (20) Count Baldwin II¹² and (AHG-19) Ida (of LOUVAIN), was born in 1087/8, and died in 1120^[4]. He married in 1107, (ANU-2) YOLANDE OF GUELDERS, daughter of (ANU-1) Gerald I, Count of Guelders, who was born circa 1089 in Gueldres, Rhineland, Germany. ^{[15, 56, 31, 49]}
Children:

+	23	i.	COUNT BALDWIN IV14 OF HAINAULT of HAINAULT, France, b. circa 1108, d. on 8 Nov. 1171; m. (ABM-11) ALIX DE NAMUR in 1130.
+	24	ii.	IDA of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, b. circa 1109; m. (AKQ-3) ROGER III DE TOENI (DE CONCHES).

23. COUNT BALDWIN IV¹⁴ OF HAINAULT (Baldwin III¹³, Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of HAINAULT, France, son of (22) Count Baldwin III¹³ and (ANU-2) Yolande (of GUELDERS), was born circa 1108, and died after 8 Nov. 1171. He married in 1130, (ABM-11) ALIX DE NAMUR of HAINAULT, France, daughter of (ABM-9) Count Godfrey and (AMQ-11) Ermisende (de LUXEMBOURG), who was born circa 1120, and died in 1195^[4]. ^{[16, 31, 49]}
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COUNT BALDWIN V15 OF HAINAUT, b. in 1150 in HAINAUT, France, d. on 17 Dec. 1195; m. (BD-28) MARGARITE OF LORRAINE in April 1169.

24. IDA¹⁴ OF HAINAUT (Baldwin III¹³, Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹) of Flamstead, daughter of (22) Count Baldwin III¹³ and (ANU-2) Yolande (of GUELDERS), was born circa 1109, and died between 1120 and 1229. She married (AKQ-3) ROGER III DE TOENI (DE CONCHES) of Flamstead, son of (AKQ-2) Ralph IV and (ACD-4) Alice (Adeliza) (of NORTHUMBERLAND) TOENI (DE CONCHES), who was born circa 1104, and died before 1162^[4]. ^{[4, 56, 2]}
Children: See (AKQ-3) Roger III de TOENI (DE CONCHES)

25. COUNT BALDWIN V¹⁵ OF HAINAUT (Baldwin IV¹⁴, Baldwin III¹³, Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), son of (23) Count Baldwin IV¹⁴ and (ABM-11) Alix (de NAMUR), was born in 1150 in HAINAUT, France, and died after 17 Dec. 1195. He married in April 1169, (BD-28) MARGARITE OF LORRAINE of Alsace, daughter of (BD-25) Thierry, Count of Flanders and (PT-7) Sibilla (Sibyl) (Sybil) (ANJOU), Countess of Flanders, who was born circa 1135, and died on 17 Dec. 1195^[4]. ^{[17, 31, 49, 33, 2]}
Children:

+	26	i.	ISABELLE16 DE HAINAUT, b. in 1170 in HAINAUT, France, d. on 15 March 1190 in Paris, Seine, France; m. (T-37) KING PHILIPPE II OF FRANCE on 28 April 1180 in Bapaume.
+	27	ii.	YOLANDE OF FLANDERS, b. circa 1175, d. in Aug. 1219 in Constantinople, Turkey; m. (T-39) PETER DE COURTENAY.
+	28	iii.	COUNT BALDWIN VI, b. in July 1171 in Valenciennes, d. on 11 June 1205/6; m. (ALK-23) MARIE OF CHAMPAGNE.

26. ISABELLE¹⁶ DE HAINAUT (Baldwin V¹⁵, Baldwin IV¹⁴, Baldwin III¹³, Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), daughter of (25) Count Baldwin V¹⁵ and (BD-28) Margarite (of LORRAINE), was born in 1170 in HAINAUT, France, died after 15 March 1190 in Paris and was buried in Notre Dame de Pa, Seine. She married in Bapaume, on 28 April 1180, (T-37) KING PHILIPPE II OF FRANCE, son of (T-30) King Louis VII and (ALK-15) Adelaide (or Alix) (de CHAMPAGNE), who was born on 22 Aug. 1165 in Paris, was christened in Paris, died on 14 July 1223 in Mantes, and was buried in St Denis, France. ^{[18, 32, 50, 2]}
Child: See (T-37) King Philippe II of FRANCE
27. YOLANDE¹⁶ OF FLANDERS (Baldwin V of HAINAUT¹⁵, Baldwin IV¹⁴, Baldwin III¹³, Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), daughter of (25) Count Baldwin V¹⁵ and (BD-28) Margarite (of LORRAINE), was born circa 1175^[4], and died in Aug. 1219 in Constantinople^[4]. She married (T-39) PETER DE COURTENAY, son of (T-31) Peter and (KS-4) Isabelle Elizabeth (de COURTENAY) FRANCE, who was born in 1155^[4], and died before 1218^[4]. ^[19]
Child: See (T-39) Peter de COURTENAY
28. COUNT BALDWIN VI¹⁶ OF HAINAUT (Baldwin V¹⁵, Baldwin IV¹⁴, Baldwin III¹³, Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), son of (25) Count Baldwin V¹⁵ and (BD-28) Margarite (of LORRAINE), was born in July 1171 in Valenciennes^[4], and died after 11 June 1205/6^[4]. He married (ALK-23) MARIE OF CHAMPAGNE, daughter of (ALK-16) Count Henry and (T-36) Marie (of FRANCE). ^{[24, 31, 38, 54]}
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MARGARET17, d. circa 1280; m. (LL-2) BOUCHARD D'AVENES.

29. MARGARET¹⁷ OF HAINAUT (Baldwin VI¹⁶, Baldwin V¹⁵, Baldwin IV¹⁴, Baldwin III¹³, Baldwin II¹², Baldwin VI de MONS¹¹, Baldwin V de LILLE¹⁰, Baldwin IV the Bearded of VALENCIENNES⁹, Arnold II the Young of FLANDERS⁸, Baldwin III⁷, Arnold I the Old⁶, Baldwin II the Bald⁵, Baldwin I⁴, Odoacer³, Engelram², Lideric¹), daughter of (28) Count Baldwin VI¹⁶ and (ALK-23) Marie (of CHAMPAGNE), was born between 1185 and 1207/8, and died between 1270 and 1290^[4]. She married (LL-2) BOUCHARD D'AVENES, son of (LL-1) Jacques and Ameline (de GUISE) D'AVENES, who died circa 1243/4^[4]. ^{[25, 31, 37, 54]}
Child: See (LL-2) Bouchard D'AVENES